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Bird Flu ground zero is the USDA in Athens, Georgia

Updated: May 23

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In this thought-provoking episode, Nurse Michele sits down with Nicolas Hulscher, MPH, a distinguished epidemiologist and administrator at the McCullough Foundation, to delve into pressing public health topics and controversial decisions shaping the global health landscape.


Hulscher shares his perspectives on President Trump’s decision to withdraw the United States from the World Health Organization (WHO), as detailed in his latest commentary on the McCullough Foundation’s Substack. Hulscher praises the move, citing concerns over failures of the WHO’s accountability and transparency. His analysis aligns with the McCullough Foundation’s broader mission to advocate for evidence-based public health policies that prioritize American sovereignty in health decision-making.


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Proximal Origin of Epidemic H5N1: A Peer-Reviewed Warning


The heart of the conversation revolves around Hulscher’s peer-reviewed article, Proximal Origin of Epidemic Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza H5N1 Clade 2.3.4.4b and Spread by Migratory Waterfowl. This groundbreaking peer-reviewed publication, uncontested by the USDA, highlights critical findings on the origins and spread of H5N1, a highly pathogenic avian influenza strain.


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According to Hulscher, the proximity of outbreaks to certain research facilities raises serious questions about potential gain-of-function experimentation or lapses in biosecurity protocols. He underscores the need for appropriate investigations involving law enforcement and skilled epidemiologists to secure laboratories and gather evidence.


Read the full article here: Proximal Origin of Epidemic H5N1.


Risks and Consequences of Laboratory Errors


Hulscher and Nurse Michele discuss the grave risks of human error in laboratory settings, particularly in experimentation involving avian viruses with potential adaptability to human populations. With catastrophic consequences, a single lapse could pave the way for H5N1 to develop human-to-human transmissibility.


The episode highlights:

  • The potential for global pandemics if H5N1 were to become transmissible among humans.

  • The dangers of pursuing scientific experimentation without stringent oversight and ethical considerations.

  • Collaboration is important to enforce biosecurity and prevent misuse of research.


The conversation also explores the U.S. government’s significant investments in Moderna’s mRNA vaccine development in the name of combatting H5N1 and why this is evidence of the pharmaceutical complex alliance with our own USDA, potentially causing the very problem that many stand to make millions, if not billions, on the solution, to this man-made problem.


US Investments in Bird Flu Vaccine Development

  • A $590 million grant to accelerate vaccine development.

  • An additional $176 million was awarded for further research.

  • The purported focus is on protecting farm workers and high-risk populations.

  • Another attempt to utilize mRNA technology to ‘expand clinical data’ under the guise of providing ‘protection’ against avian influenza.


These investments appear as a covert attempt to lead the American people into a sense of urgency that there may be a public health threat with impending risks to public safety.


Pursuing Justice and Securing Public Safety


Hulscher calls for accountability and justice in cases of illegal scientific experimentation. He stresses the importance of skilled epidemiologists leading investigations to uncover the truth, particularly regarding concerns about USDA-linked labs in Athens, Georgia.


The conversation reinforces the critical role of Government transparency, ethical research practices, and vigilance in safeguarding global health through the prevention of gain-a-function practices on US soil.


This episode is a must-listen for those interested in public health, biosecurity, and the ethical implications of scientific research. Tune in to hear his expert insights and critical analysis of some of today’s most pressing health challenges.


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